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Canada's ETF market just hit $1 trillion in assets — but record flows can mislead as much as they inform, and Jean-Carlo Rouzier wants every advisor to know the difference.
In this episode of Insight Is Capital, host Pierre Daillie sits down with Jean-Carlo Rouzier, Director and ETF Specialist at National Bank Investments, for a conversation that goes well beyond the headline numbers. With more than two decades inside the Canadian ETF industry — including tenures at the three largest ETF providers in the country — Jean-Carlo brings a rare, ground-level perspective on how advisors, institutions, and self-directed investors are each using ETFs in profoundly different ways.
From the mechanics of structural versus tactical flows to the nuances hiding inside seemingly identical index products, the episode covers the real limits of covered call income strategies, NBI's institutional-grade open architecture model, why the active vs. passive debate has finally run its course, and why knowing what you own in one sentence may be the only portfolio principle that truly holds.
If you build portfolios for a living, this episode will change how you read a flow report.
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction: What flows don't tell you
01:00 - Jean-Carlo's 20-year journey inside Canada's ETF industry
02:30 - What has fundamentally changed in ETF adoption over the past decade
05:00 - Three investor segments driving growth: retail, advisors, and institutions
08:00 - ETFs as infrastructure: how regulatory reform reshaped the advisor model
12:30 - Index nuances: why "passive" is never quite as passive as it looks
14:00 - How institutions use ETFs differently, and what advisors can learn
21:00 - Canada hits $1 trillion: how to read ETF flows without getting misled
24:00 - The danger of chasing tactical flows and thematic momentum
28:00 - The active vs. passive debate: why it's finally over
33:00 - The decumulation gap: where ETFs haven't fully solved retirement income
36:00 - Covered Call 2.0: NBI's approach to yield and growth with Goldman Sachs AM
39:00 - NBI's Open Architecture and the OP4+ governance process
43:00 - Core-satellite construction and why asset allocation drives everything
47:00 - Risk, volatility, and what most advisors aren't doing enough of
53:00 - Self-directed investors, YouTube finance, and behavioral alpha
57:30 - The Canadian ETF ecosystem in five years
58:30 - The most persistent ETF myth, and one principle every advisor needs
Connect with Jean-Carlo Rouzier & National Bank Investments ETFs
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jean-carlo-rouzier
National Bank Investments ETFs: http://nbinvestments.ca/etf
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