David Rosenberg: Mother of Jobless Recoveries Lies Ahead

David Rosenberg appeared on Fast Money yesterday at the end of the day to discuss the economy, employment data, and the stock market outlook. Here are the highlights:

  • There have been 600,000 jobless claims consistently over the last 20 consecutive weeks.
  • The pace should slow to 350,000 to 400,000 job losses for now.
  • Companies have let go 8 million full time workers - 2 million of those were put on part-time.
  • The work week at a record low of 33 hours.
  • Therefore, even if the green shoots are real, what you'll see is part-timers being upgraded back to full-time, and their hours raised by their employers and so the traditional 100-150,000 new jobseekers who come into the labour force each month - I got bad news for them - no jobs.
  • We are going to have the mother of all jobless recoveries, and the unemployment rate will make new post WW2 highs throughout the process.
  • The market has priced out a recession, and priced in a recovery for the 3rd quarter - its possible that we may show positive GDP by then, its possible to see some re-stocking eg. we know that the auto production schedule is picking up...
  • But, we also know that restocking that is not coupled with an increase in consumer demand is not sustainable, so I think that its possible to have a factually positive 3rd quarter.
  • My concern is the 4th quarter - I think we're going to have a relapse in the 4th quarter of what we had in 2002 - we had a gargantuan rally in March of 2002, bonds sold off, it was all good, fiscal reflation, the Fed cut rates doing its job, inventory restocking, infrastructure - none of that happened.
  • We had to wait a full year for that - and in the mean time we had a gargantuan credit cycle.
  • The market will retest previous lows - that would be normal - but its going to be earnings - so far this market has been P/E multiple driven.
  • Now, earnings have to come through.

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