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Markets can recover from a downturn. Your retirement cannot recover from cyber fraud.
In this episode of Insight Is Capital, host Pierre Daillie sits down with Cary Williams, Portfolio Manager and Director of Research at North Road Investment Counsel, and Mykhailo "Misha" Niemtsev, North Road's Digital Risk Advisor, to make a compelling and data-backed case that cyber fraud belongs in every retirement plan alongside inflation, longevity, and sequence-of-returns risk.
Drawing on Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre data, their whitepaper The Retirement Risk No One Is Planning For, and direct client experience, Cary and Misha reveal that the average spear phishing loss per victim reached $107,000 in 2024, representing 10 to 15 percent of the average retiree's liquid assets. They examine the AI-powered tools criminals now deploy, including voice cloning, deepfake video, and automated phishing at massive scale, and explain why the very clients who believe they are immune are statistically the most vulnerable. Misha walks through the eight-module digital protection program he has built for North Road's high-net-worth clients, distilling it into the 20 percent of actions that deliver 80 percent of the protection, and makes the case for advisors to add cyber risk to every client conversation, not as a footnote, but as a standing agenda item.
Episode Chapters
0:00 - Introduction: The retirement risk that never appears in the plan
1:52 - Meet Cary Williams and Misha Niemtsev, North Road Investment Counsel
5:23 - How North Road's Digital Risk Advisory program was born
8:52 - Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre data: the numbers are striking
9:53 - Who is most at risk? The surprising fraud victim profile
10:40 - Shame, denial, and the massive under-reporting problem
12:08 - AI-powered threats: voice cloning, deepfakes, and agentic phishing
17:44 - Dark web reality: your personal data costs criminals just dollars
20:46 - Why cyber fraud qualifies as a retirement tail risk
25:11 - The human cost: trauma, identity theft, and years of recovery
28:02 - Legal consequences when your identity is used to commit crime
31:56 - The grandparent scam and what 10 seconds of audio can do
35:32 - Pig butchering scams: criminals who play the long game
39:02 - Misha's eight-module digital protection program explained
43:00 - The Pareto principle: the 20% of actions that stop 80% of attacks
46:50 - North Road's free anonymous Digital Risk Quiz
49:25 - What advisors should change in their practice today
Resources
Whitepaper: The Retirement Risk No One Is Planning For
Free Digital Risk Self-Rating Tool (anonymous, no email required): Take the Digital Risk Quiz at northroadic.com
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