With global headlines bouncing between trade tensions, inflation worries, and surprise economic data, itâs getting harder for investors to know what matters most. So, on the latest Inside Perspectives1 podcast, AGFâs leadership teamâCEO and CIO Kevin McCreadie, Chief Trading Officer John Christofilos, and Head of Fixed Income Tom Nakamuraâjoined host David Pett to sort through the noise and focus on whatâs actually moving markets.
From Golf Talk to Gut Checks
The conversation begins on a light note with some banter about golf and freak hailstorms, but it doesn't take long to get serious. McCreadie offers a fitting analogy for life in the markets: âThis is a business where even if you hit it six to ten times, you're really, really good. But that's the expectation.â Translation? Success in this business means being right more often than wrongâbarelyâand the margin for error is razor-thin.
Markets Bounce, But Are They Stable?
Stocks have been on a tear lately, with the S&P 500 jumping 7% in a month. But McCreadie isnât sold on the idea that weâre in the clear: âWe havenât really cleared any hurdles⌠We've just moved them down the road.â He points to a familiar patternâinvestors rushing back into the âMagnificent Sevenâ tech giantsâsuggesting comfort over conviction is driving the rebound.
Christofilos finds the speed of the rally almost too much: âItâs been surprising to see the violent nature of the bounce.â He suspects that deeply negative sentiment and light positioning set the stage for a big reaction. âRetailâs been buying this dip almost every single day,â he adds. But heâs not convinced the bottom is in just yet: âWeâll need a little bit more time before I feel comfortable that weâre not going to retest those lows.â
The Soft vs. Hard Data Tug-of-War
A recurring theme in the conversation is the disconnect between what people say is happening and whatâs actually happening. âAll that [soft] data looks terrible,â McCreadie says, referring to gloomy business and consumer surveys. But when it comes to the real economyâthings like spending and jobsâitâs holding up surprisingly well.
That split could go either way. âThe longer we see that soft data saying it's lousy, it probably has a higher probability of turning into something that means economic weakness,â he warns.
Bonds Are on a Rollercoaster
For Nakamura, fixed income markets have been anything but boring. âEvery day is a week,â he says, summing up the volatility. Yields are jumping around, driven by every new data point and political headline. Meanwhile, the U.S. dollarâs recent weakness has given a boost to emerging market currenciesâsomething Nakamura ties to renewed hopes for better global trade relations.
But McCreadie adds a warning: this may not just be about trade. âSomething else is going on⌠Itâs a story about uncertainty,â he says. Between the U.S. budget deficit and rising gold prices, he sees deeper concerns at play. âIn a perverse way,â he adds, âwe need these tariff revenuesâ to help keep the fiscal math from breaking.
Rethinking the U.S. Dollar
One of the most eye-opening moments comes when Nakamura shares a change of heart: âFrom day one until maybe six months ago, my answer's always been the same⌠the U.S. dollar is the reserve currency. Changed my mind on that one.â
While neither Nakamura nor McCreadie are calling for an immediate dethroning of the dollar, both now see the beginnings of a structural shift. The world, they argue, is starting to âseriously diversify away from the U.S. dollar and U.S. treasury assets.â
Brand America Is Taking a Hit
Thereâs also a softerâbut no less importantânarrative at play. McCreadie believes U.S. credibility is taking a hit on the global stage. âThereâs something about brand America that's being damaged,â he says, pointing to falling travel numbers: âCanadian travel to the U.S. is down 30%. European travel projected to be down 10%.â
For Christofilos, this is a chance for Canada to step up. âThis is a proud moment for Canada,â he says. âWe need to take advantage of it.â He calls on the federal government to knock down internal trade barriers and make the country more self-sufficient.
Playing Defense in Portfolio Construction
So how should investors navigate this murky landscape?
âThink long term. Think diversification. Donât go overboard one way or the other,â says Nakamura. In bonds, that means being thoughtful not just about how much duration you haveâbut where itâs coming from. Sovereigns, corporates, geographiesâthey all behave differently under pressure.
Christofilos advises a measured approach: âTake your time, leg into trades⌠thereâs no reason to go all in on something immediately.â McCreadie agrees, flagging key upcoming events like the July 9 trade deadline and the G7 summit as potential curveballs.
His prediction? âWeâre going to work toward a world that probably looks like a 10% tariff⌠but to get there is not going to be an easy path.â
A Global Reset in Motion
Zooming out, the team sees broader shifts unfolding.
Europe is finally spending again, with Germany loosening its long-held debt constraints. Canada is attracting new capital flows. âYouâve seen those flows,â says McCreadie, adding that Canadaâs outperformance is âboth structural and sentiment-driven.â
But beyond numbers, itâs also emotional. âThereâs a handful of things we talked aboutâgrown men crying on TV. Thatâs usually a buying opportunity.â Markets are emotional creatures. But they also tell the truthâeventually.
The System Still Works
Despite all the uncertainty, Christofilos offers a reassuring closing thought: âThe plumbing in the markets is working exceptionally well.â With more people invested than everâ58% of U.S. households now own stocksâhe sees greater resilience. âSomebodyâs always there to buy the dip or sell the rip.â
And while McCreadieâs parting shotâhis take on the âTACO tradeâ (Trump Always Chickens Out)âis funny, the takeaway is serious: in a world thatâs changing fast, investors need to stay flexible, stay diversified, and stay sharp.
Footnote:
1 AGF Investments. Inside Perspectives. âThe Exceptional Case of Underperforming U.S. Markets." 5 June 2025.