It is the kind of conversation that starts with a whisper and ends in a thunderclap. In the opening segment of BNN Bloombergâs April 4, 2025, 9AM broadcast1, anchor Andrew Bell set the stage with an ominous tone: Canadian employment figures had disappointed, U.S. tariffs had surged, and global markets were rattled. To unpack the fallout, Bell is joined by Earl Davis, Head of Fixed Income and Money Markets at BMO Global Asset Management, and Karl Schamotta, Chief Market Strategist at Corpay. What follows is a sobering but insight-rich dialogue about policy, volatility, and the shape of things to come.
The Job Market Missâand Why It Matters
From the outset, Davis pulls no punches. For him, Canadaâs weak jobs report is not just another data pointâitâs a signal flare for the Bank of Canada. âI think it increases the pulse possibility of an ease,â he says, noting the marketâs 50% probability for a 25-basis-point cut. More importantly, the weak print gives the central bank âopportunities in the next meetingâ to look through sticky inflation and focus on growth risks instead.
Schamotta agrees, noting that the initial signs of 2024 recovery have now evaporated. âWeâre looking at a lack of confidence among Canadian employers, among consumers. Businesses overall are⌠pulling back on investment plans, on hiring plans.â The implications? More job losses ahead and more âroom to begin easing rates more dramaticallyâ.
Bell pushes further: does Canada still have restrictive monetary policy? Schamottaâs response is both tongue-in-cheek and chilling: âMeasures of the neutral rate are always highly theoretical⌠almost a religious phenomenon.â But beneath the irony is a clear consensus: âWeâre still in restrictive territory,â and even sub-2% policy rates might still qualify as tight.
Davis, for his part, sees even more dovish potential: âI saw terminal rates at 2%. I now think thereâs a higher probability we get to one and a half by year end.â A âone-handleâ on Canadian interest rates would be a profound shift, one made more likely by the growing sense of economic fragility.
Tariffs, Uncertainty, and the Shock to Global Trade
If the jobs data was a red flag, the reimposition of U.S. tariffs is a flashing siren. While Schamotta is measuredâânot exactlyâ surprisedâhis real concern was existential. âThe question⌠isnât so much about the scale of it. Itâs the motivation.â With Trump bundling disparate policy goalsâmanufacturing, immigration, currency strengthâinto a single tariff strategy, Schamotta warns, âIt still isnât clear why heâs doing thisâ.
That opacity, he argues, introduces profound systemic risk. âWe could be looking at major changes to how the global financial system works in addition to how global trade works.â In other words, tariffs may be the beginning, not the end, of the disruption.
Davis, by contrast, is stunned. âI thought this was a worst-case scenario, and it changed my view going forward and approaching the markets 180 degrees.â What troubles him most wasnât just the scale, but the intention. âThis is tariffs for tariffsâ sake as a revenue generator,â he says, a view underscored by the targeting of Chinaâit's third largest trading partner.
The retaliation from China, already in motion, signals a trade war escalation with no clear off-ramp. âWe havenât hit peak uncertainty yet,â Davis warns. âThis to me is a total paradigm shift right now.â
Volatility AheadâBut Not Necessarily Recession
Despite the gloom, Davis is far from bearish in the traditional sense. Rather, he frames this period as one of tactical opportunity. âI actually love these type of moments,â he says, referencing his 30 years in markets. The challenge, as he sees it, is navigating the volatility without succumbing to fear.
âWe donât see a recession in 2026,â Davis asserts confidently. Why? Three reasons: âThereâs a lot of dry powder from central banks,â âfiscal roomâ in both Canada and the U.S., and most critically, âso much cash on the sidelinesâ in money markets, waiting for signs of stability.
This liquidity, he believes, could be deployed rapidly into risk assetsâequities, corporate bonds, long duration bondsâif clarity returns. âItâs an important time to have a balanced portfolio,â Davis stresses. And when it comes to fixed income strategy, he was unequivocal: âItâs extremely important to add duration to portfolio.â With long bonds yielding more than projected terminal rates, the carry and capital gain potential are too attractive to ignore.
That doesnât mean backing up the truck. Davis clarifies: âWe rallied a lot very rapidly⌠Here, I wouldnât add to bonds. I wouldnât sell. But I look to be a better buyer on any sort of weakness.â Active management, he says, is paramount in âthese type of volatile environmentsâ.
Monetary Mutation: Could the U.S. Weaponize Capital Flows?
Bell, sensing the conversationâs deeper implications, turns to Schamotta: what if Trumpâs next move involves reshaping the global financial system? Schamotta doesnât flinch. âSome [advisors] are recommending things like Tobin taxes⌠user fees for treasuries⌠all sorts of things like that.â Such changes would amount to a fundamental rewiring of the global economic order.
âThe closest parallel to the current situation is the Nixon shock,â Schamotta notes. That historic pivotâsevering the dollar from gold and abandoning Bretton Woodsââled to shock waves across the global economy.â This time, similar policy experimentation could follow, and the secondary consequences might again take years to play out.
Davis adds that even taxing bond incomeâonce eliminated by Reaganâcould be tactically reintroduced to influence investor behavior. âThey could⌠say, we will have a withholding tax on coupon income up to ten years⌠If you hold any bonds longer than that, thereâs no withholding tax.â The idea? Quietly push global buyers out the yield curve to extend U.S. debt duration.
Final Thought: Opportunity in Uncertainty
In a conversation dense with data, nuance, and macro risk, the underlying message is clear: we are not in Kansas anymore. Between Canada's weak jobs data, the onset of a new global trade war, and the rising potential for radical U.S. policy shifts, this is no longer a âsteady as she goesâ moment.
Still, Davis and Schamotta are not despondent. Instead, they offer a roadmap for navigating the fog: embrace volatility, stay active, extend duration, and prepare for a macro regime change.
âThe reason why we donât see a recession is threefold,â Davis reminds viewers. âMonetary policy, fiscal room, and cash on the sidelines.â It may not be pretty, but itâs not 2008.
Yet if weâve learned anything from historyâfrom the Nixon shock to the COVID aftermathâitâs this: âThe four most expensive words in the English language,â Schamotta concludes, âare âthis time is different.ââ
1 BNN Bloomberg, April 4, 2025 9:00AM Opening Bell.